In the Weiß Chronicles, Johann Gottlieb Weiß (1736-1800) the mayor of Pferdsfeld (see generation 8) marries Anna Katharina Andrae (1742-1816) from Gebroth. She is the paternal grandmother of the author of the chronicles but he did not supply any additional information about her. He was born around 1821, after she died. By 2000, we still didn't know anything about her. By 2013, we had found the names of her parents. Based on that information, my father hired a professional genealogist who came back with a report of six pages (including two pages from an earlier effort published by Ulrike Kühne in 1994 (Mitteilungen der WGgF Bezirksgruppe Mittelrhein). From that I extracted the names and dates that go into our official family tree but somehow I never got round to looking at it in depth and searching some of the new names that came up.
The main result of the professional report was establishing that, in spite of some gaps in the church books of Gebroth, the name line Andrae can be traced back to Nikolaus Andrae of Andreae, who was the vicar of Gebroth from 1632 presumably until his death, but records aren't all that complete in the middle of the 30-years-war. Although not all parent-child links are clearly documented, the genealogist made a convincing case based on mutual exchanges of godparents between families. Also, it appears that the name Andrae, which survives in Gebroth to this day (I checked 28.2.2026; see also their cemetery), was introduced to the village with the arrival of that vicar, so the lineage of our Anna Katharina must be going back to him even if one of the links may be a bit wobbly.
The genealogist also discovered a skeleton in the vicar's closet - there is a file about Nikolaus with allegations of domestic violence from 1613, during his earlier tenure as the vicar of Gödenroth. Apparently the church was so short of candidates with the right academic qualification willing to take up poorly paid posts in remote Hunsrueck villages that they couldn't dismiss him but gave him a second chance when he promised it wouldn't happen again. He stayed until 1632, when he was moved to Gebroth. His redemption appears to have worked out well as his nameline descendants remained in Gebroth and networked with everybody who was anybody and found some rather interesting spouses, including the granddaughter of the Strasbourg goldsmith about whom I raved last week. Incidentally, her brother Johann Conrad von der Rosen is the vicar of Gebroth
Some 13 years after the report came in I now looked at the earliest ancestors listed there again, because I had been looking into the social network of the vicars of Eckweiler and wondered whether there were any more to be found in the vicinity of the vicar of Gebroth. I found quite a few new ancestors, including four additional protestant priests (total now stands at 9, or 10 if I include the one listed as "probably" the father of another, below), as well as connections to the ancestries of Goethe through common ancestors in Marburg and, separately, Albert Schweitzer. Of course these links are too remote to be of any biological significance, but they are enormously helpful as these VIP family trees tend to be well researched and documented.
Oh and I'm still discovering more things that will go into another blog entry. I do wonder why our old chronicler didn't show any interest in the family of his grandmother.

Merian engraving of Marburg in 1605, a time when lots of Orth people were active there. Unfortunately I couldn't find any interesting illustrations of Gebroth. The church has burned down and been rebuilt since Nikolaus Andrae was the vicar there and there aren't any historic postcards of the place online (although I have a tiny image of one in a web page that I printed out 20 years ago). Source.
So here we go, starting from Anna Katharina, generations 0-4 all born in Gebroth unless otherwise specified. The five protestant priests in her direct ancestry are set in bold:
1. Anna Katharina Andrae 1742-1816
2. Franz Nikel Andrae 1705-1765, juror in Gebroth
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3. Maria Magdalena Metzler 1711-1779
4. Johann Nikolaus Andrae from Gebroth appears as a godfather at christenings in nearby Winterburg in 1689 and 1700.
Intriguingly, the list of protestant parsons in the area has one by the same name born in Krummenau in 1685, but without a clear connection to Gebroth.
8. Frantz Nickel Andrae died before 1685. The genealogist argued that the combination of Franz and Nikolaus is rare outside this family, so this guy would likely be the grandfather of the eponymous ancestor number 2.
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9. Maria Ottilia von der Rosen
16. Nikolaus Andrae, born in Enkirch on the river Mosel, an area where the name Andrae is more common; vicar of Gödenroth 1609-1623 and of Gebroth from 1632 until his death before 1643
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17. Amalia NN in the genealogist's report, but nowadays, various online sources identify her as Amalia Orth, from an ancient family from Hessen (Marburg / Butzbach) traced back to before 1400, which also appears in Goethe's family tree.
After Nikolaus Andrae died, Amalia became the third wife of the clergyman Johann Valentin Corvinus who had also been married to two other Orth women before. The Goethe pages (see VI 59) note that one was her sister, the other her cousin.
18. Johann Conrad von der Rosen born 1599 Strassburg, died Winterburg 13.9.1656
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19. Elisabeth Nesselius born 1606 Winningen
NB From here on we leave Gebroth behind and the known lineages mainly involve relatively famous ancestries easily found online, so I'm only listing them as far as necessary to demonstrate the connections to the four additional clergymen I just discovered:
32. the quest for further Andreae ancestry continues, watch this space!
34. Heinrich Orth, , * Kirn ca. 1561, + … 1612/15, Braunsberg, Amtmann des Grafen Wilhelm v. Braunsberg, in Merxheim.
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35. Katharina Caesar (Kaiser?) ,
36 Franz Bolion von der Rosen, the goldsmith of Strasbourg
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37 Ottilie Flach born in Schlettstadt, Alsace, from the Flach family that also features in Albert Schweitzer's ancestry.
38 Georg Christian Nesselius vicar of Winterburg, Kaplan at Winningen, Diacon at Birkenfeld. Studied at Strasbourg.
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Birkenfeld
39. Ursula Conon
68.Johann Balthasar Orth, *ca. 1526 Bingen, + Kirn/Nahe 5.1.1569, Kaplan 1555,
From 1560 until his death in 1569 he was the second protestant vicar of Kirn. As it happens, his predecessor, Peter Siegel, is in my family tree too, though through the Imig rather than the Kauer route. See further Orth ancestry here. Johann Balthasar is IV.43, and apparently there are three different lineages that are proposed for his ancestry, but all lead back to Antonius Orth, below.
70 Konstantin Caesar / Keiser Vicar in Sien (1585), Enkirch (1593-98), Dill (1598-1600)
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Sara NN
72 Humbert von der Rosen, from Liege
74 Gabriel Flach * 1525 Schlettstadt May be related to the Strasbourg printer Martin Flach who died in 1500?
78 Johann Conon (ca. 1542-1602) vicar of Trarbach, Dill, Birkenfeld; born Reichenbach, Vogtland, studied at Rostock and Strasbourg. Note that a couple of generations earlier there was a monk with that name who was praised by Erasmus.
140 ? Sixtus Caesar O. Penningroth writes that 70. Konstantin Caesar was "probably" the son of Sixtus Caesar, who was a vicar at Demmingen and Salzungen (Monatshefte 1933). Not sure how reliable this guess is, but I'm adopting him, so stay tuned for a blog entry dedicated to the lives of the Caesars!
For the common ancestor with Goethe, I have to go 3 generations up from the vicar of Kirn to generation I in this Orth genealogy, arriving at:
544. Antonius Orth, (Donges) * Butzbach or Wetzlar + 1486/93 Marburg , Bürgermeister of Marburg 1463/64, where he was a merchant, and where his seven children were born.
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545. Grete from Mardorf
This couple sits at the top of three different lineages leading to Goethe (and probably everybody else with ancestors in Hessen).
Note that Anna Katharina, with five vicars in her family tree (six if we count Sixtus Caesar, and there may be more, I'm still digging!), went on to marry the son of a vicar, who had several more in his extended family. Oh and the Johannes Andrae from Gebroth who went to study theology at Gießen 1767 may well have been her brother.
Makes me wonder to what extent she was aware of her family history, and why none of this information percolated down to her grandson.
I'm chuffed to have found this connection to Marburg actually, going back to the time before the university was founded in 1527.Antonius Orth lived there exactly 500 years before I went there to study.
Who is who? - see my new name index for all things family history.